On Tue, 26 May 1998 16:51:00 GMT, kmmontandon@ucdavis.edu (Kurt
Montandon) wrote:
>Doc Holliday (somewhere@some.place) wrote:
>: On Fri, 15 May 1998 19:50:33 GMT, Cary Martynuik <carym@mgl.ca> wrote:
>: >Doc Holliday wrote:
>: >> Why? Got a nice 600 degree exhaust grill back there.
>: >>
>: > Yummmmy, Nothing like Diesel fume-flavored MREs!
>: >
>: Yep, a real delacacy if you ask an 11 seires who has had to eat stone
>: cold MREs for a month until that unit of tankers parked nearby and let
>: them stand in the exhaust to dry off and get their first piping hot
>: meal in a while.
>
>What's wrong with the heater in the MRE? Other than time-consumption,
>which cuts down on food-consumption, that is.
Nothing if you're lucky enough to get the new production with them
included, or you get your hands on a box of them, (me thinks they
stink though) .
Besides, I like to save mine to make heater bombs with :+)
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On Fri, 15 May 1998, Cary Martynuik wrote:
>
>
> Doc Holliday wrote:
>
> >
> > >f) a Microwave oven.
> >
> > Why? Got a nice 600 degree exhaust grill back there.
> >
> Yummmmy, Nothing like Diesel fume-flavored MREs!
South Africans put micro-wave ovens in their RATEL APC's over 15
years ago.
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anybody will be shown to have been irrefutably right or wrong on this matter"
_____________________________________________________Senator John G. Gorton
Safety issues aside, I'd really like to be able to start the engine from
the TC's station. This would really come in handy during long periods
of "mounted surveillance."
Terry
On Thu, 28 May 1998 00:21:32 GMT, Terry Ballinger
<ballingt@ne.infi.net> wrote:
>Safety issues aside, I'd really like to be able to start the engine from
>the TC's station. This would really come in handy during long periods
>of "mounted surveillance."
That's a feature the -A2 supossedly has (but with the under armor APU
why bother?)
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"KWANG TEOW SANG S/B" <stanman@tm.net.my> wrote:
>
>b) Air conditioning for those blazing hot summers and places where it's
>always so hot.
The Merkva has air conditioning.
>
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KWANG TEOW SANG S/B (stanman@tm.net.my) wrote:
: Forget bigger guns, AA missiles etc. The things tankers would like to see
: are:-
I seem to remember a similar thread around a year and a half ago or so, on
HMMWV built-ups. It struck me as odd that the army has a procedural manual
for *everything* except how to build and equip your infantry battalion
TOC. Most TOCs I saw in Hawaii were two-deep sic-up (sp?) tents with an
FSE vehicle backed up to the side and the S3 radio truck backed up to the
end (although both vehicles could be 'remoted', working speakers
permitting). The layout of the HMMWV builtups was a point of pride for
everybody who drove or TCed one, as there was no standard beyond the AF
flight reg, everybody was out to 'build the best TOCv'. There was a
demented old SFC in 3-7 FA who had the Winnebago of all HMMWVs: the IFSAS
was on a shelf right behind the bulkhead, 'pickup truck window' in the
middle, fold-down desks on either side with shelves above, and a big table
and chairs in the back center of the bed, with ops maps on both sides and
track lights (white *and* red) flush-mounted to the ceiling. These guys
must have spent a week easy just sawing plywood, not to mention the
AF-spec welded steel frame.
Does it strike anybody else as silly that the government pays
$40K-something for these trucks, and then grunts have to hack their own
camper tops together in order for them to be useful? Couldn't we just use
an ambulance for that? (Hmm! Air conditioning!)
Huey, former TOC guy
On Mon, 11 May 1998 16:51:46 GMT, "KWANG TEOW SANG S/B"
<stanman@tm.net.my> wrote:
I like little red dots from the laser desiginators... :)
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KWANG TEOW SANG S/B wrote:
> b) Air conditioning for those blazing hot summers and places where it's
> always so hot.
I agree. Temperatures can rise until impossible degrees making life
equally impossible. There are already tanks with an airconditioner but I
forgot which ones.
> d) DC sockets to operate stuff like notebooks, shavers, stereos and which
> they can use to recharge their cellular phones.
Although I've never ever needed a notebook or even a cellular phone on a
tank this one comes in handy. As an engineer I've build myself a 24DC to
12DC converter
in order to use a private radio in the tank while performing repairs.
The thing could be used in any 24DC outlet so any truck or tank
was good enough for me.
Out of curiousity: what the hell do you need a notebook for in a tank ?
You're not on the Internet while driving your tank aren't you ?
A (private) cellular phone while on duty ? You must be kidding....
A stereo ? How about the CD-changer or the 2 Megawatt amplifier..
> e) More stowage. You can never have enough.
Yep !!
> f) a Microwave oven.
You don't need that...I used the hot engine for warming up my meals.
How about installing a coffee-machine or a refrigirator for your average
six-pack....
> g) cupholders
Christ almighty !! What army are, or have, you been in ? What do you
think what happens to your drink whilst riding thru the bush ?
Apart from getting shot at, you would like me to drown inside ?
Greetings from an old tanker,
Marcel
Marcel Jussen (marcel.jussen@altavista.net) wrote:
: > b) Air conditioning for those blazing hot summers and places where it's
: > always so hot.
: I agree. Temperatures can rise until impossible degrees making life
: equally impossible. There are already tanks with an airconditioner but I
: forgot which ones.
Anywhere people build tanks for nuclear warfare. Air conditioning
coming as part of the overpressure system more often than not. But
not in Australia's Leopard tanks which heat up something terrible.
To over 50C in summer I'm told. The response of the German makers
("We haff never had dis problem in Dusseldorf") may just be a myth.
: > d) DC sockets to operate stuff like notebooks, shavers, stereos and which
: > they can use to recharge their cellular phones.
: Although I've never ever needed a notebook or even a cellular phone on a
: tank this one comes in handy. As an engineer I've build myself a 24DC to
: 12DC converter
Is it just me or does anyone else think letting soldiers bring their
mobile phones is a bad idea? If the Russians can build a missile to
blow up a man using a mobile phone almost anyone can. Worse you will
tell people where you are. Phoning home isn't a good idea. Still
when you can do it via sat. it may make thingsbetter.
: > g) cupholders
: Christ almighty !! What army are, or have, you been in ? What do you
: think what happens to your drink whilst riding thru the bush ?
: Apart from getting shot at, you would like me to drown inside ?
The Merkava comes with a cold water dispenser. Does that count?
Joseph
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